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51楼 BruceHuang
 等级:博士后 发帖数:45 回帖数:2567
| 发帖时间 - 2006/11/30 21:56:42 | 以下是引用genard在2006-11-30 21:53:24的发言: "上面也没出现 SIGHT,怎么着?"------更简单的智商问题,同一个证据,你自己提供出来,要进一步证明你的错误吗? "还 Credit, 没有 Letter of 呢!难道不是信用证了?"-----你知道AT XX DAYS SIGHT的意思吗? |
你自打嘴巴啦!这么大的字,看不见吗? http:// *域名隐藏* importer(dot)net/view_topic/ *域名隐藏* Credit at 90 days from the B/L 意思,请高手指教
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52楼 BruceHuang
 等级:博士后 发帖数:45 回帖数:2567
| 发帖时间 - 2006/11/30 21:57:49 | 以下是引用genard在2006-11-30 21:36:39的发言: 呵呵,果然是智商问题! [QUOTE]以下是引用BruceHuang在2006-11-30 21:26:18的发言: 严格地说,“90天远期信用证”的表达是“L/C AT 90 DAYS SIGHT”,但这个 SIGHT 往往不出现(终于适合你这 |
此外,承接上几帖,不是说你对海运情有独钟极有见地么?又让你翻译一下正要执行的合同条款,别老跟我说不感兴趣啊!有本领你翻!之后我再发言! 4.0 WEIGHING At loading port, seller shall, at seller's expense, determine the weight of the shipment by draft survey. The weight of XXX as ascertained and certified together with the seller's analysis shall be the basis of invoice. Buyer may, at buyer's expense, have their representatives present during the draft survey. Buyer shall, at buyer's expense, apply to SGS for weight at discharge port. The weight of the shipment at discharge port is to be ascertained by draft survey. The weight thus determined by SGS shall be final as to wet quantity of relevant shipment. The dry quantity Shall be determined by deducting the free moisture loss at 105 degrees centigrade referred to in clause 13 of this contract from such wet quantity. Seller may, at seller's expense, have their representatives present at the time of such determination. If there ate discrepancies in outturn weight on a dry basis of over 0.5% compared to the inturn weight, then buyer and seller may consult settle the difference. If a draft survey is not performed at discharge port, seller's certificate of weight will be regarded as final. 5.0 SAMPLING AND ANALYSIS 5.1 At loading port, seller shall, at seller's expense, determine the specification of XXX contained in each shipment according to the latest International Standard Organization (ISO) procedures in respect of the chemical analysis, size structure. Seller shall provide a certificate showing details of the determination. Buyer may, at buyer's expense, have their representatives present at the time of such determination. At discharge port, SGS shall sample from each shipment according to the latest ISO procedures and divide the sample into three parts, one for the buyer, the second for possible need of seller and the third for possible umpire analysis which shall be sealed and kept by SGS. Seller may, at seller's expense, have their representatives present at the time of sampling and analysis. SGS shall analysis the sample for buyer and within thirty (30) days of completion of discharge issue and promptly forward to seller by airmail a certificate showing the percentage of chemical elements, the percentage of free moisture loss at 105 degrees centigrade and the relevant screen analysis. SGS’s analysis shall be final except as otherwise provided for in clause 6.1 of this contract. In the event that seller does not receive SGS report within 30 days after completion of discharge, seller's certificate of analysis issued at loading port shall be regarded as final and shall form the basis for final invoice. 5.2 If the difference in percentage of XXX content between buyer's and seller's analysis made under clause 6.8 of this contract is more than 0.5% or if there exists a significant difference between the two said analysis in respect of any one or more chemical elements other than XXX, seller shall consult with buyer to reconcile such difference. If, after consultation, the difference cannot be reconciled, then at the request of seller the sample for umpire analysis shall be analyzed by an umpire agreed between buyer and seller and the certificate of analysis issued by such umpire shall be final for XXX or relevant chemical elements and for physical size. 5.3 If no determination of analysis or physical size is exercised at discharge port, seller's certificate shall be conclusive as to specification and shall form the basis for final invoice. 5.4 The weighing, sampling, chemical analysis, moisture determination and screen analysis performed at the discharge port by SGS shall be for buyer's account. The cost of the umpire analysis shall be for the account of the party whose own analysis differs the furthest from the umpire analysis, and if the result of such umpire analysis is the mean of the analysis of buyer and the analysis of seller then such cost shall be equally borne by both parties.
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53楼 genard
 等级:博士后 发帖数:13 回帖数:3515
| 发帖时间 - 2006/11/30 22:02:38 | 现在开始不仅进仅是智力问题,眼力问题也出来啦! 45楼本人回帖,自己回去再看看: 简单的智商问题: 你用的是:AT XX DAYS SIGHT from\after B/L date! 别人用的是:Credit at 90 days from the B/L!----为什么没有用SIGHT?
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54楼 genard
 等级:博士后 发帖数:13 回帖数:3515
| 发帖时间 - 2006/11/30 22:10:58 | 本人不仅对你没兴趣,更对你那些自命不凡的东东没有兴趣!----但当某些人自吹自擂时,***有兴趣让他原形毕露! 想让让我给你翻译?你真看得起俺这"半路出家"的"半桶水"啊!---别费劲啦,本来眼力就有问题,再熬夜敲键盘,恐怕........................... 以下是引用BruceHuang在2006-11-30 21:57:49的发言: 此外,承接上几帖,不是说你对海运情有独钟极有见地么?又让你翻译一下正要执行的合同条款,别老跟我说不感兴趣啊!有本领你翻!之后我再发言! |
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55楼 BruceHuang
 等级:博士后 发帖数:45 回帖数:2567
| 发帖时间 - 2006/11/30 22:29:05 | 以下是引用genard在2006-11-30 22:02:38的发言: 现在开始不仅进仅是智力问题,眼力问题也出来啦! 45楼本人回帖,自己回去再看看: 简单的智商问题: 你用的是:AT XX DAYS SIGHT from\after B/L date! [size=4]别人用的是:Credit at 90 days from the B/L!----为 |
自己又看看,为什么别人不用 AFTER? 要这样考究的话,就又看看:- 31楼 genard 外贸老油条 等级:博士后 发帖数:10 回帖数:3118 发帖时间 - 2006-11-30 9:15:53 信息 回复 引用 编辑 收藏本帖 ________________________________________ 再给你指点一下: AT XXX DAYS SIGHT就不可能再加上FROM THE B/L DATE! AT XXX DAYS SIGHT,是见票(汇票)XXX天--都已经见票XXX天啦,再加上FROM B/L DATE,对吗? ------什么人已经说过啦:"各位不妨捉摸一下!一些东东就在方寸之间发生。" 如果一定要写全啦,应该是: The Buyer must open L/C xx days AFTER the B/L date within 7 working days after signing the Sales Contract. 或者 The Buyer must open L/C Usance for xx days AFTER the B/L date within 7 working days after signing the Sales Contract. http:// *域名隐藏* (dot)com/question/ *域名隐藏* 远期信用证(USANCE L/C)==Usance Letter of Credit 秩序倒过来了,但会有什么区别吗?我不认为 USANCE L/C 和 L/C USANCE FOR XX 会存在很大区别。至于以下,同一道理! L/C at 90 days from B/L date L/C at 90 days sight from B/L date 真个是无理取闹了!顺便一问,你能否说得清 day 与 date 的区别?至于这句 L/C at 90 days from B/L, ——没有 date, 就措词不严谨! 本人不仅对你没兴趣,更对你那些自命不凡的东东没有兴趣!----但当某些人自吹自擂时,***有兴趣让他原形毕露! ====不行就是不行啦!找借口! 想让让我给你翻译?你真看得起俺这"半路出家"的"半桶水"啊!---别费劲啦,本来眼力就有问题,再熬夜敲键盘,恐怕........................... ====你敢翻译,就是论坛开天辟地的大事了!敖夜?今天是我***次,你不是天天都在三更半夜敖夜吗?我敖夜见不得人了吗?这也是你挪耶的内容?要说敲键盘,我的五笔,总比你的蜗牛拚音快得多啦!至于英文打字,你就更免谈了吧!以下这些简写是你一直忌讳的,是你面前的 N 座大山,但只要你敢答,就算不对,也算你万岁啦外行!*********简单的,你连英文省略号是六点还是三点都搞不清楚,居然是六点(我若不指出来,你会觉悟、会改吗?)!借用、改用陈“大”导演的一句话:人,不能无“用”到这个地步! “FFDLC,POF,SA,UNH, PB,BCL,POP,A/O,A/S,AVE,B/D,C/M,C/O,D/D,D/O,EEE,ETS,HX,I/O,IVF,O/A,PYT,SB,S/D,TMW,UOS,V,W/I,W/O,W/T,OM, FCO, A4, B4, C4, D4 …” 下线…… 本帖子2006-11-30 22:50:54由BruceHuang进行编辑!!
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56楼 genard
 等级:博士后 发帖数:13 回帖数:3515
| 发帖时间 - 2006/12/1 9:09:03 | 理屈词穷,只能转移目标,再三拿标点符号说事-----人的确不能无聊到这个的地步! 以下是引用BruceHuang在2006-11-30 22:29:05的发言: *********简单的,你连英文省略号是六点还是三点都搞不清楚,居然是六点(我若不指出来,你会觉悟、会改吗?)!借用、改用陈“大”导演的一句话:人,不能无“用”到这个地步! |
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57楼 genard
 等级:博士后 发帖数:13 回帖数:3515
| 发帖时间 - 2006/12/1 9:13:45 | 又是一些简单的智商问题! 以下是引用BruceHuang在2006-11-30 22:29:05的发言: 敖夜?今天是我***次,你不是天天都在三更半夜敖夜吗?我敖夜见不得人了吗?这也是你挪耶的内容? |
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58楼 BruceHuang
 等级:博士后 发帖数:45 回帖数:2567
| 发帖时间 - 2006/12/1 9:48:18 | 以下是引用genard在2006-11-30 22:02:38的发言: 45楼 你用的是:AT XX DAYS SIGHT from\after B/L date! 别人用的是:Credit at 90 days from the B/L!----为什么没有用SIGHT? |
All right! 你出牌,我还跟!首先,参考资料:- 即期信用证:L/C at sight 90天远期信用证:Usance L/C at 90 days sight D/P即期 : D/P at sight; D/P遠期 : D/P at XX days sight; D/A 遠期 : D/A at XX days Sight, L/C同理。 你无非想说这个问题:- 提單日後90天付款,填上"at 90 days after/from B/L date",即付款人以提單簽發日為起算日,90天后到期付款。 上句无sight,但是既然已经有了作为基准计算的日期 B/L date,那么,就算存在一个sight,看似不应出现(国外客户的措词中时有时无,有sight,不管是否真正见到 B/L 单据,也是自 B/L date算起!),是的,不管如何,还是从 B/L date 开始计算。除非后面没有 B/L date,这种对有 sight 或无 sight 的异义的辩论才具意义!这只是本帖中的某一点,其它大量需要你回答的问题,何以漠视? Certificate of Hold and Hatches Cleanliness … And so forth.
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59楼 BruceHuang
 等级:博士后 发帖数:45 回帖数:2567
| 发帖时间 - 2006/12/1 10:19:38 | 以下是引用genard在2006-12-1 9:09:03的发言: 理屈词穷,只能转移目标,再三拿标点符号说事-----人的确不能无聊到这个的地步! [QUOTE]以下是引用BruceHuang在2006-11-30 22:29:05的发言: *********简单的,你连英文省略号是六点还是三点都搞不清楚, |
是的,人不能无“聊”到这个地步!不管怎么转移,都是学术话题;不管深浅,你都经常搞不懂;搞不懂也没关系,我也没说全都懂,有说得不当的我也承认了。只是,何以错得出尽洋相的你,连一点承认的勇气都没有!反而撒腿就跑?下帖你***后逃避,我就再贴上来。羞羞啦!检点下! http:// *域名隐藏* importer(dot)net/view_topic/ *域名隐藏* 1楼 cdglory 等级:小学生 发帖数:2 回帖数:9 发帖时间 - 2006-10-31 10:04:22 信息 回复 引用 编辑 ________________________________________ 请教各位能否告诉我信用证议付下商业汇票的格式,急! 谢谢大家了! 9楼 genard 外贸老油条 等级:博士后 发帖数:10 回帖数:3121 发帖时间 - 2006-11-1 9:35:00 信息 回复 引用 编辑 ________________________________________ 没有看到你LC上的要求,只能说一句:你确认LC要求的是商业汇票而不是银行汇票吗?------通常LC都要求提供银行汇票而不是商业汇票的! 以下是引用cdglory在2006-10-31 18:46:46的发言: 谢谢大家的帮助,我自制了一个商业汇票随信用证要求的其它单据交到了银行.等银行审单后就知道了. 谢谢各位了! 10楼 genard 外贸老油条 等级:博士后 发帖数:10 回帖数:3121 发帖时间 - 2006-11-1 9:39:19 信息 回复 引用 编辑 ________________________________________ 区分商业汇票和银行汇票其实很简单,看汇票付款人是银行还是非银行商业机构! -------L/C项下由受益人出具的汇票,也必须是以开证行作为付款人,是银行信用担保的汇票,所以是银行汇票而不是商业汇票! 13楼 BruceHuang 广东青年/二节棍客 等级:博士生 发帖数:33 回帖数:1456 发帖时间 - 2006-11-1 11:14:49 信息 回复 引用 编辑 ________________________________________ 在本帖中,对“出口受益人L/C所需为商业汇票还是银行汇票”的讨论,已延伸为“如何鉴别是商业汇票还是银行汇票”这一问题。老油条,你又错了! 17楼 genard 外贸老油条 等级:博士后 发帖数:10 回帖数:3121 发帖时间 - 2006-11-1 12:05:13 信息 回复 引用 编辑 ________________________________________ 出口受益人LC提交的汇票是商业汇票,还是银行汇票------这根本就是不需要讨论!通常都是银行汇票,除非LC另有规定! 31楼 glorrria 等级:小学生 发帖数:0 回帖数:53 发帖时间 - 2006-11-4 19:33:00 信息 回复 引用 编辑 ________________________________________ 是可以搜索得出来的. 汇票的当事人有三个:出票人(签发汇票的人);受票人(付款人);收款人(受领汇票金额的人)。根据出票人的不同,汇票分商业汇票与银行汇票。出票人为企业或个人的,为商业汇票 。银行汇票是以银行为出票人的汇票。判定标准是看出票人是谁,不是看付款人. 35楼 cdglory 等级:小学生 发帖数:2 回帖数:9 发帖时间 - 2006-11-6 16:56:52 信息 回复 引用 编辑 ________________________________________ 谢谢大家的热烈讨论! 我交到银行的商业汇票通过了,没问题.该票由我司出,盖的我司的章,签的我司负责人的名.是商业汇票!!!!!!!!! 为什么同是外贸人(若正在做外贸这行),对单证的理解和操作却有如此大的不同??????????? 46楼 东莞市亿至纺织设备 等级:小学生 发帖数:3 回帖数:46 发帖时间 - 2006-11-8 22:01:42 信息 回复 引用 编辑 ________________________________________ 一年级的学生都看得出你错了。不行就承认,又没有法律责任,像你这样死撑着不认错有什么意思??? 以下是引用genard在2006-11-4 8:45:41的发言: 关于汇票,首先国内商业流通中的汇票有两种:银行汇票和银行承兑汇票! 一)银行汇票,是即期付款的\有银行签发\银行付款的-----这个不需要多解释的! 二)银行承兑汇票-----就是被归类为商业汇票的银行承兑汇票!对比银行 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 总结:谁说L/C项下一定是银行汇票?谁说凭付款人的角色来判断汇票的种类?上面的新会员们都给你上课了!可笑的条条!多向他们学习吧! 本帖子2006-12-01 11:46:47由BruceHuang进行编辑!!
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60楼 BruceHuang
 等级:博士后 发帖数:45 回帖数:2567
| 发帖时间 - 2006/12/1 10:34:13 | 以下是引用genard在2006-12-1 9:13:45的发言: 又是一些简单的智商问题! [QUOTE]以下是引用BruceHuang在2006-11-30 22:29:05的发言: 敖夜?今天是我***次,你不是天天都在三更半夜敖夜吗?我敖夜见不得人了吗?这也是你挪耶的内 |
是啊,看你能否回答得出以下这些简单的缩写,以下这些当然是简单的智商问题!举手之劳嘛!别老说不感兴趣,为你自己争争气好不好? FFDLC,POF,SA,UNH WWD的全称你说对了,但你没翻译成中文啊!这也很难吗?
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